Tesla

[dbarnblatt]

Originally Posted by benebob

The wacko is the idiot owner who sued Top Gear (and lost) and now claims that the NYTs fixed its review. Now even the right wing establishment would expect the NyT would want the car to do well which makes his "claims" so much more out there. How much does the gov't own from their investment? No the space flight got him quite a bit more.

Yeah, ok... It's all a big lie/conspiracy. Start your own weirdo angry thread about Musk, Jewish liberal media, and the big evil government. Leave that crap out of this one.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

Yeah, ok... It's all a big lie/conspiracy. Start your own weirdo angry thread about Musk, Jewish liberal media, and the big evil government. Leave that crap out of this one.

Why would I do that I simply provided evidence that sure in happy cow land the Tesla may have a range closer to what Telsa claims (though the EPA disagrees) but elsewhere it seems to be coming up short but yet Usk seems to want to silence those who have realized that he isn't selling sliced bread. This thread is not lets all sit around a circle and praise the Tesla whether you like it or not. Maybe you should go to Musk's house if you want to try to silence detractors. He seems to feel the same way.

[dbarnblatt]

Originally Posted by benebob

Why would I do that I simply provided evidence that sure in happy cow land the Tesla may have a range closer to what Telsa claims (though the EPA disagrees) but elsewhere it seems to be coming up short but yet Usk seems to want to silence those who have realized that he isn't selling sliced bread. This thread is not lets all sit around a circle and praise the Tesla whether you like it or not. Maybe you should go to Musk's house if you want to try to silence detractors. He seems to feel the same way.

YOU are dragging this thread into the crapper with racist comments and "truther" politics.

Take it somewhere else.

Either that, or clean it up, play nice and consider that yours might not be the only view on the matter.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

YOU are dragging this thread into the crapper with racist comments and "truther" politics.

Take it somewhere else.

Either that, or clean it up, play nice and consider that yours might not be the only view on the matter.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. You funny. Raciest comments bhhhhhhhaaaa haaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa. "Truther" No idea what that is but I'm sure its just as funny. You must be a comedian out there in the happy land but apparently the cows there aren't capable of understanding sarcasm and neither are you.

Let me explain it to you this way though my friend. The next time I see you tell ANYONE here to "take it somewhere else" I will personally see that you do not post again on this forum without the flies finding your stinky poop.

[dbarnblatt]

Originally Posted by benebob

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. You funny. Raciest comments bhhhhhhhaaaa haaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa. "Truther" No idea what that is but I'm sure its just as funny. You must be a comedian out there in the happy land but apparently the cows there aren't capable of understanding sarcasm and neither are you.

Let me explain it to you this way though my friend. The next time I see you tell ANYONE here to "take it somewhere else" I will personally see that you do not post again on this forum without the flies finding your stinky poop.

Ugly comment Benebob... Not cool.

What I meant was take it to another thread...

Come on, I'm not trying to censor you or anybody... but your initial comments of "Jewish liberal media" veered so far off topic of the thread and exposed a pretty ugly side of this place and of you. It's a public place and I would never say such a thing, it's in bad taste and very offensive to me and I'm sure many others here.

You would have never said that to anyone in person, would you? So why say it here?

[Blacky]

Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

Ugly comment Benebob... Not cool.

What I meant was take it to another thread...

Come on, I'm not trying to censor you or anybody... but your initial comments of "Jewish liberal media" veered so far off topic of the thread and exposed a pretty ugly side of this place and of you. It's a public place and I would never say such a thing, it's in bad taste and very offensive to me and I'm sure many others here.

You would have never said that to anyone in person, would you? So why say it here?

Very well put. Can this please end now.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

Ugly comment Benebob... Not cool.

What I meant was take it to another thread...

Come on, I'm not trying to censor you or anybody... but your initial comments of "Jewish liberal media" veered so far off topic of the thread and exposed a pretty ugly side of this place and of you. It's a public place and I would never say such a thing, it's in bad taste and very offensive to me and I'm sure many others here.

You would have never said that to anyone in person, would you? So why say it here?

How so as there is well over 40 percent of the population that is firmly entrenched that the media is too far left and gives a biased Jewish spin to the real news. Here is a perfect example of how far from the truth that actually is but you and pleny of others can't see. If th liberal media doesn't support tree hugging "fake green cars" like the Tesla what is this world coming to., I'm glad your offended as I and 'i'm sure many in the country are offended that Telsa has gotten 465 million dollars of our money to never once turn a profit. Kind of reminds me of G.B. and Delorean. If they can't stand on their own two feet then they deserve to fail.

Oh and I'd gladly say what I wrote too yours or anybodys face as it is the truth and reality of the country you live in. Not a bit of "racism" (never knew that Jews now qualified as their own race rather than a religious group) or even the muslims for that matter which sadly you didn't seem to be offended by so what does that say about you. I'll discuss it this weekend at the ski resort with some of my Jewish friends about their race. I'm sure they'll be glad to have such a defender for them.

Back to the your topic, the article I posted just shows the very serious issues that battery powered cars face in the most populated area of the country and that building a massive infastruture is NOT the job of the gov't. How many gas stations did the gov't build in the teens and beyond? Let the most likely fossil fuel fired electric fail on its own accord just as G.W. realized that hydrogen isn't the answer in the near term after his billions of investments.

Would your friend have paid 2x the sricker for his tesla because that's pretty much what he did. He just used the giant welfare net to pay the other half.

[wdb]

Benebob did you read the NYTimes article itself?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/au...v-highway.html

The author set out to drive the car from one of the Tesla "Supercharger" stations to the next, and basically refused to accept the reality that he wasn't going to make it. He turned off the heat, passed up several opportunities to top up the car's charge, and he left the car unplugged overnight - which I now know is a serious no-no for electric cars in cold climates. Then after his long, cold, miserable drive, he sat down and started typing. You can guess how that went.

He could have written a piece on Tesla's advertised claims of an electric car supposedly capable of getting from DC to Boston vs. the real world experience of actually making the trip in said car; instead he doggedly continued to attempt what was obviously and repeatedly shown to him to be impractical, and committed a huge electric car no-no to boot.

Musk is definitely not the best poster boy for corporate image, and his response to critics is pretty much inexcusable. But he's bold enough to be first and brave enough to be wrong. I personally don't mind one bit that Elon Musk has about $1.25 of my money in his war chest to see if electric cars can make it in America. I'm ecstatic that there is still some evidence of us being able to truly innovate in this country. I don't know if electric cars will be the way we all get places in 20 years or a footnote of history, but that's not the point.

EDIT: At least my $1.25 is buying me some entertainment! Musk's more supposedly reasoned response to the NYTimes article:
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most...iar-test-drive

And a dissection of that response:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/techn...-fakery/62149/